YBIOTL Episode 2 Audio Publish Final V2
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Shubh: [00:00:00] It's time for episode two of your businesses on the line. Is the audio worse than the first episode? Yes. Is the content worse? Probably Join me and Philip Burns for episode two. Brought to you by Indian Dad Media and Association with,
Philippe: this is a Thursday media production.
Shubh: Hi everyone. Welcome to episode two of Your Businesses On the Line, a podcast where people can pitch business ideas or business problems and, uh, we will help solve them. I'd like to, um, introduce myself again 'cause I forgot to do that last time. My name is Shub Sidhu. I am the host, creator, inventor. What is the right word?
Philippe: Founder, maybe even,
Shubh: uh,
Philippe: entrepreneur in residence of your businesses on the line.
Shubh: I am, I have, I pitched, I self pitched this idea.
Philippe: Yeah. You are like the Conan [00:01:00] O'Brien of podcasts with zero listeners.
Shubh: That's right. Uh, I would also like to welcome back Philip Burns.
Philippe: We're back maybe
Shubh: from Tech Thursday. Uh, Philip, uh, guest hosted our pilot episode and, uh.
You came back.
Philippe: It's great to be back. Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, we've we're maybe talking about this earlier. How many times do you think somebody can guest, host? It's like, uh, you know, when you take a guest to like your, like through the gym, like you got guest passes. How many guest passes do you think, before I have to kind of go, ah, gosh, this guy's name is on the, is on the logo.
Philippe: Yeah. I feel like it's, it's really until you find someone better. Okay. That'll keep coming up. It'll be like once, and it's, you have me in a great position.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Where I'll just keep you, like, now I have to keep doing my best. Yeah. To continue to earn my spot. But eventually you'll find someone better.
Shubh: This is, this is pretty good.
Like maybe like a punch card. We'll give you a punch card. Yeah. After you get six guest co-host. Yeah. You get an extra one. [00:02:00] Also big news. We have a producer, my, uh, dare I say friend, Chaz Summers. Chaz and I worked together for many years at ZayZoon. Um, he knows the young people on the internet much like you do.
Right. And though I thought it would be important to, to bring him onto the team, which he, I think is super excited about.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And he is not on the audio right now 'cause he is busy producing. I was
Philippe: just Is he, is he he's signed on as producer, like,
Shubh: yeah. Big time. Okay. I have expressed permission to. To say this.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: Yeah, he, uh, he did work, uh, with me and for me for many years at ZayZoon. And because he can't, uh, respond right now, I think it's important that maybe I give some context as to the nature of our relationship, which is, um, uh, is there somebody, uh, Philip, that you look up to more than anyone else in the world outside of.
This room.
Philippe: Sort of this room.
Yeah.
Philippe: Yeah. I, yeah, maybe, I guess my, my father maybe. Sure. Maybe the Michael Jordan.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. So I believe that, I would guess I'm like a [00:03:00] combination of your father and Michael Jordan, but for Chaz
Philippe: in his eyes. Yeah. Yeah,
Shubh: yeah. So I think that's all that he sees.
Philippe: So he had really great feedback to give about the first pilot episode.
Shubh: Yeah. You had some feedback. We got a bunch of feedback. Uh, you got some feedback. You distributed the pilot. By the time people hear this, the pilot will be out in the world, so they could've. Heard it.
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: But you got some feedback on our first episode. Uh, how did that go?
Philippe: Yeah, uh, uh, feedback was, was very, came back very shoub positive.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: I heard a, a lot of people talking about one, one feedback. Like mentioned there's like eight points and two of them was the timber of your voice.
Shubh: Wow.
Philippe: So, so much so that I, I really think they were like hinting at like, hey, like
Shubh: the, the lack of timber in your voice.
Philippe: Exactly. The lack of timber in my voice.
Feel like maybe take a step back and, um, maybe don't cohost. So yeah.
Shubh: So, um, I, we also got some feedback, um, and most of the feedback.
Philippe: We gotta let Shaz in the room.
Shubh: We, we, we keep letting him back in. [00:04:00] He's, he's, he's producing, he's not inspiring a lot of confidence. That's
welcome back, sha. This is your job, buddy.
What? It's not, it's producer,
Philippe: absentee producer right
Shubh: now. Yeah. Uh, I mean. Uh, I'm, now I'm totally thrown off. What were we talking about?
Philippe: Uh, we were talking about feedback.
Shubh: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got feedback as well and from some of, from the people that, um, I, whose input I really care about, like my wife.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And all the feedback that I got was like, Phillip is, uh, he's wonderful.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: He is so great. And, and, and, and a couple of the people like, oh yeah, he's, uh, really funny. And I was like, yeah, he's
Philippe: there.
Shubh: I mean, it's not, he's a guest host, so I just remember I kept reminding them.
Philippe: Right, exactly.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah.
Philippe: He's a guest host. If you say that one more time, I will replace
Shubh: him. Yeah. And then also there was some, uh, there was [00:05:00] some talk about your hobby, your quidditch backstory. Very popular story. There was one question that came up and I did not have the answer. Um, you, the brooms don't actually fly. I'm assuming.
Philippe: Yeah. So
Shubh: are you just, you're just holding a broom or do you have like a, a harness of some kind?
Philippe: That's a great question. Yeah. So you're, you're, it's like a, it's essentially like a PVC pipe.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And, and you hold it between your legs,
Shubh: so it's not a broom at all.
Philippe: So Yeah, it's really not a broom at all. No bristles there historically were bristles in the game, but they, they were removed before I joined.
Shubh: 'cause it was a safety hazard.
Philippe: It was a safety hazard. Exactly. Because it's like full tackle. It's almost a mix of like volleyball, dodgeball, and like rugby.
Shubh: You can tackle people.
Philippe: Yeah, you can do like one arm tackle. So you're like holding your broom. And is there any
Shubh: video that exists of you playing, which
Philippe: there is on a private Google Drive link?
There is a highlight of my 2014
Shubh: a uh, Chaz just a note for later, if you could flag this, we're gonna need to cut up some of Phil's. [00:06:00] Uh, Philip a quidditch playing video as an adjunct to the episodes.
Philippe: That's gonna be on a paid tier. If there's ever, like, if there's a paid tier tier, we
Shubh: still have a Patreon and people have to donate their five bucks to see it.
Philippe: That should be my idea. It's $10,000 to see my Quidditch highlighter. That's pretty
Shubh: good.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: I think I could. I, I might pay that myself
Philippe: instead of an only fans. And it's just videos of me playing Quidditch.
Shubh: Uh, also had some feedback. People were a little bit confused about the format. They're like, are these real pitches?
Are they pretend pitches? Are you gonna give out real business idea advice? And, uh, I replied, I don't know. Shut up.
Philippe: As you should have. Yeah. Hey, just listen.
Shubh: Yeah. Hey, how many podcasts have you made? Is what I said. And the answer was, uh, in one case. Couple, but many cases, uh, none. Uh, a couple things I also wanna cover now that we're working together.
Yeah. We haven't worked together before. I like to come up with nicknames for people I work with. Chaz never got a nickname 'cause Chaz. [00:07:00]
Philippe: Yeah, but I've been calling him Chaz.
Shubh: Chaz. Chaz is not Chaz
Philippe: and I like it.
Shubh: It's very uh, it sounds very European.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, he never got nickname 'cause Chaz got, feels like a nickname already.
Philippe: Right,
Shubh: right.
Philippe: It's hard to be cooler than Chaz.
Shubh: So I'm been workshopping some nicknames
Philippe: for me,
Shubh: for you, and I want to get your reaction.
Philippe: And by the way, I did see your chat Bji history, and I love, I love when you say workshopping. Yeah. You just put my name into chat, botie and said,
Shubh: and I came up with a bunch of nickname ideas and then I said, Hey, can you come up with better nickname ideas?
Okay. And it did not, but I'm happy to read some of its ideas too.
Philippe: Okay. Yeah, read some. I'm curious what you came up with. I'm also curious if you've hit what my friends actually called me.
Shubh: Well, here's, here's an interesting one. I will tell you the idea and you can tell me, did Shoub come up with this or did the robot come up with this?
Right. Uh, jelly.
Philippe: Shelly Peanut Butter and Jelly.
Shubh: Yeah. PB and j.
Philippe: Is that how we got there?
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Um, that's a shove idea, I think.
Shubh: Yeah, it is.
Philippe: Yeah. Yeah,
Shubh: it's pretty good.
Philippe: I, I also had a, I also had a, a Quidditch nickname as [00:08:00] well, which we can get to, but
Shubh: was it Weasley?
Philippe: Not Weasley. Was that on your list as well?
Shubh: Yeah. Was it Oliver Wood who was the captain of the Quidditch team and Harry's first year?
Philippe: Yeah. Oliver Wood, so handsome. Not Oliver Wood, though. That was my name.
Shubh: What about Hogwarts? Does anyone ever call you Hogwarts? That's a pretty good nickname, right?
Philippe: That's a pretty good nickname. Yeah. Hog. Hog
Shubh: Hog.
Philippe: Hogie
Shubh: Hog Hogie, um, the seeker. Does anyone ever call you that? Like the whole thing? The seeker.
Philippe: The seeker. No one's ever called me that. These
Shubh: are all still my ideas.
Philippe: Yeah. It really, it really seems like, yeah. I mean, hopefully philosopher Stone is on there.
Shubh: That's too long.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: Phil. Phil. But that is very clever though.
I also, uh, just change away from the Harry Potter realm, uh, uh, Monty or Montgomery.
Philippe: Okay. Oh, 'cause Mr. Burns.
Shubh: Mr. Burns, yeah. Or Mr. Was the other nickname idea, just Mr. Burns.
Philippe: Hey, Mr.
Shubh: And, uh, I was at an event with you this past weekend and, uh, somebody said, which do you prefer? And you said, sir. So I added Sir to the list too.
Philippe: I said, [00:09:00] please, Mr. Fa, Mr. Burns is my father's name called me, sir.
Shubh: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you some of the chat. GPT ideas.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Philby. Okay. Fizz with a pH the
Philippe: fiz.
Shubh: Fiz with pH. Fizz with an F.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: Fits. I don't know what's happened here. Rizzo. Rizzo Ain't Rizzo's not bad. Rizzo's
Philippe: tight.
Shubh: Yeah, A Flapjack.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: I don't, I'm none of these are great. Uh uh Pip.
Philippe: Pip is my real nickname. That's
Shubh: your sanction nickname?
Philippe: That's my sanction nickname. So my friends call me Pip.
Shubh: I could get into Pip, but just I want you to think about some of those other nickname ideas too.
Philippe: Those are pretty good.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And do you have a nickname?
Shubh: Uh, Shoub Never Shoub,
Philippe: Washo.
Shubh: Shoub was short for my full name, so it never needed a nickname.
Philippe: What's your full name?
Shubh: Snee.
Philippe: Shenee?
Shubh: Yeah. So shove was like, I never required one,
Philippe: Mr. Neat.
Shubh: There was not a lot of shoves growing up in the early eighties in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: It wasn't like a [00:10:00] What shoub are you talking about?
Sho? You or Chef Jones?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: The most popular name in Edmonton at that time was like, Nate.
Shubh: It's actually fabulous question.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: What was the most popular nickname in Edmonton in the early eighties?
Philippe: Yeah, probably like Nate and then.
Shubh: Daniel don't, I don't think. Nate, I think, I think that came later. Um, and your cadence and your braden's and all that stuff came later.
I think, uh, for babies born in that era would've been a lot of like marks and wanes and
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: Grants because of the orders,
Philippe: you know?
Shubh: Yeah. So, um,
Philippe: sounds like a very diverse community.
Shubh: Yeah. That's good. That's good. Um, I thought also. You were kind enough to share some of the weird things that you've done in your background.
Philippe: Yeah. And you finally take me up on being vulnerable.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, I got a whole bunch, so I, I thought I would reveal one every couple episodes. Uh, one is. I can play the mouth trumpet really, really
Philippe: well. What is the mouth? Trumpet, [00:11:00] isn't it trumpet? Just
Shubh: it's a, it's,
Philippe: oh,
Shubh: it's, there's no trumpet involved.
Oh yeah.
Philippe: That's amazing.
Shubh: Yeah. You, you wanna hear it? Yeah,
Philippe: I wanna hear,
Shubh: I don't know how this will come through in the audio, but, okay. Okay. Uh, I can't play an actual song because then we'd have to pay for it, but, uh, uh, uh uh okay. Now I'm nervous.
How's that scale of one to 10? It's so
Philippe: good. Yeah, it's so good.
Shubh: If at any Tech Thursday event you ever need. A trumpet guy, guy.
Philippe: I might, I might need you as like intro before, like any, anytime I walk into an event, you can step in front of me. Done. Yeah. And go.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. Well that's, I mean, not, wouldn't sound like that.
Philippe: Well do, how would you introduce me if I was coming? Ladies and gentlemen?
Shubh: I think you be a little jazzy, like,
yeah. That's so
Philippe: good.
Shubh: Yeah. Something like that. So anyway, that's a. That's a skillset I have in the can. Just like if I'm ever in a [00:12:00] place and someone's like, God damn, I wish we knew a guy who could like step in for a Quidditch team. I'd be like, Hey, hold the phone while I text on it.
Philippe: Right, right.
Shubh: Because I got a guy and he'll be here in 10 minutes.
Philippe: I, you make me wanna to exclusively hang out in jazz clubs and just wait to overhear the band be like. Our trumpeteer lost his trumpet. I'll be like, wait, I got you
Shubh: story for another podcast. I'll tell you about the time I got yelled at. At a jazz club by the, by the jazz musician.
Philippe: That can be a story for another time.
What
Shubh: do you need? Yeah, no, it is 'cause you don't wanna give it all away. Whatever. Okay. Yeah. In New York too. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Real jazz club. Yeah,
Philippe: you were at a real New York Jazz club.
Shubh: Yeah. But hey, story for another time. Uh, we gotta remember all these times we say story for another time. So today we're gonna try a couple things out You earlier this week, and the reason you're, you're not just back on as a guest host, you're also on as a guest this week.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Because you said to me, you said to me, SHA, but I got a text that says I got so many ideas.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So [00:13:00] what I was thinking today is I've got one more idea as well. I know I used up, uh, Flos last time, which.
Philippe: Standout idea.
Shubh: Fingers crossed.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: You know, might go big. Do you have, uh, do you got an idea you want, you wanna run by me today?
Philippe: Yeah, I, I do. Um,
Shubh: and maybe, we'll, if we need to, we'll pull Chaz in for his thoughts, but, uh,
Philippe: yeah, if
Shubh: he can get his microphone work,
Philippe: Chaz, you, I would love to hear your take as well. 'cause I think you could be maybe a user. Also, you're like, so cool. Um, so, so this, I don't call '
Shubh: em Shaz for
Philippe: nothing. No shaz for nothing.
Uh, this idea, it's, it's personal brand based, and it's actually based on my nickname.
Shubh: Okay.
Philippe: Which
Shubh: made the one I just gave you
Philippe: the well, which was that Mon Monty You gave me like 25 nicknames.
Shubh: I think Jelly, jelly or Captain, one of those two are my favorites.
Philippe: So Pip. Which also coincide. It's pretty cool that ChatGPT called Pip, but so, so, um, uh, uh, the name for this company [00:14:00] is Pip's Lips.
And famously I have a mustache because I have no upper lip. And so it's, it's sort of a personal brand, um, play here called Pips Lips.
Shubh: Okay.
Philippe: And then, you know, the tagline is kind of for those without lips. Pips lips.
Shubh: Oh, okay.
Philippe: Okay. This is, this is lip balm. Lip gloss cosmetics for lips for men. I, I don't think anyone's played in this space yet.
Shubh: Can I just, sorry.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: You said earlier, famously No lips.
Philippe: No lips,
Shubh: and now you're saying this company will produce products for lips.
Philippe: That's right. For those without lips. Pip lips.
Shubh: So are we just putting a lip balm like on our face? What are we doing here?
Philippe: Well, you know, you have very luscious lips. Thank you.
This is no problem for you
Shubh: story. You can't play the mouth trumpet without those kinds of lips.
Philippe: Exactly. Yeah. Some of us could never even aspire to play the mouth trumpet. [00:15:00]
Shubh: Yeah, yeah.
Philippe: Um, but
Shubh: it's, it's a learned skill. I'll say.
Philippe: It's a learned skill, but you know, when you have no lips.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Uh, there's still a, a lip, but it sort of exists.
Uh, uh, almost on the precipice of your mouth. So there's still a lot of area to cover.
Shubh: Overhang? Yeah.
Philippe: These like overhang.
Shubh: Okay. So pips lips. Uh, for gentlemen, it's gentleman lip care.
Philippe: Gentleman Lip care.
Shubh: Okay. Pips
Philippe: lips.
Shubh: Okay. And you're saying there's nothing in the market? As it stands today?
Philippe: No. There's like, you know, um, there's a bunch of play folks who are playing in this.
You got like, Rihanna's doing this. Hailey Bieber's doing this. Yeah. No one's doing this for men. Yeah. You know, I think, I think Harry Styles wishes, but we're going Pips lips.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And uh, you said Yeah, you sell into men.
Shubh: Yep.
Philippe: And, uh, uh, it's meant to get a cult following.
Shubh: Okay. So lip care, but for men.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: By men.
Philippe: By men.
Shubh: You got like, logo, color scheme, thoughts?
Philippe: Um, I'm more like product. I think they gotta [00:16:00] be like, cool, you know, they gotta look like workers' pencils, you know, like the flat pencils that that woodworkers use.
Shubh: Okay. Yeah. Like, like the trades, like construction folks?
Philippe: Yeah, exactly. So like, oh, is that man coming from the trades?
No, he's, he's just reapplying his work. So
Shubh: I like the idea actually of packaging it in a way that would speak to men.
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: You could have like a lip gloss that looked like a golf club.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: You could have a lip gloss that looked like a, I don't know, what are dudes into? Uh uh, uh. Hockey sticks.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Cars.
Philippe: Cars, yeah.
Shubh: Bulldozers tanks.
Philippe: That's right. You could do all those. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Shubh: Uh uh. Okay. But, okay, so then you do that
Philippe: uhhuh,
Shubh: the, how do you go to market?
Philippe: That's a great question. Yeah. Presumably my like. Um, my LinkedIn following is maybe not big enough to like fully propel you.
Shubh: Well, it better be because I thought we're promoting this,
Philippe: but [00:17:00] you're the go-to market expert. How do you think I should take this to, to the public?
Shubh: Uh, I think you need like a, I think influencer based, right? Who is the most famous person you could think of?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Who's a man with maybe similar lip challenges that you have.
Philippe: Yeah, exactly.
Shubh: How do we find that person?
Philippe: Sean Penn? I think Sean Penn is,
Shubh: I don't think we're gonna get to Sean Penn.
Philippe: Sean Penn,
Shubh: I don't
Philippe: think any have the same lip
Shubh: structure. I don't think Sean Penn's very active on social. So I think you gotta like, you gotta find somebody who's gonna. Who's gonna push the brand,
Philippe: right? Yeah. But I think if Sean Penn, like if enough of Sean Penn, you're not getting Sean Penn.
If Sean Penn is photographed Yeah. You know, walking down the street Yeah. And, and flips out. It's a cold, it's like a nippy day
Shubh: and,
Philippe: and it is dry and he pulls up pip's lips. Like, what? Better ambassador.
Shubh: But you could try this tomorrow, right? You go get some lip balm, you sticker some logos.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And then you at the next Tech Thursday event.
Yeah, you've got a bunch of people [00:18:00] coming in the room. You could do like a little bit of pilot testing. Right? What if it's a takeaway? What if it's a people get, get that from the next tech? Maybe not the next one. That's a lot. That's a quick turnaround time.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Tech Thursday event, people showing up Uhhuh, don't forget to grab your, grab your pip lips.
Philippe: Yeah, that I think that's great. Yeah. Just cross sell everyone in my life. Yeah. I can get my parents on this. I also really like the idea of like, we could just do Pips fill in the blank.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: So it could be like,
Shubh: okay, what's next?
Philippe: Pip's?
Shubh: Does it have to rhyme?
Philippe: I don't know if it does. It could be like, so long as Pip's lips takes off.
It could be like Pip's legs. You know, it just all the pants that PIP would wear.
Shubh: Okay. But sorry, people are keep asking me, is this gonna be serious pitches? And I'm like, well, may probably not. But like the, the thing is like there is some things we can learn
Philippe: right
Shubh: about when we launch a product and we want a second product.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: There's something called adjacency, right? Like we would like it to be
Philippe: uhhuh
Shubh: [00:19:00] similar.
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: So I guess what I'm saying is you're saying lip bomb,
Philippe: uhhuh.
Shubh: Pants. Pants.
Philippe: Right to pants,
Shubh: right? Yeah. I mean, both things you wear.
Philippe: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: Both things you apply. Right. But not, you know,
Philippe: yeah. Don't necessarily make that much sense.
But I think when I think about what,
Shubh: what if it was hip's, eyes, like it was more like, uh, just for cosmetic, just face stuff.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Pip's lips. Pip's nose,
Shubh: or like Pip's? Mustache? Uh uh. Uh. What oil?
Philippe: Yeah. Replace it just for men and stuff?
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. What if it was a razor blade? That was built for men without lips.
Philippe: Why wouldn't that be relevant?
Shubh: Well, I'm just saying
Philippe: you've, you have such nice lips and I, and it shows
Shubh: you got, you
Philippe: got, why do you think
Shubh: Yeah, that doesn't help. It's uh, okay. I don't love the pants part. Okay. But I'm on [00:20:00] board with the PIP slips.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, pips, chips.
Philippe: Just
Shubh: everything Cha Cha said, and his, one of his first things as a producer, he's like, C can it with the, with the chips talk?
Philippe: We're sick of the chips.
Shubh: Yeah. So I fired him and he begged for his job back because of the aforementioned uh, idealism.
Philippe: Yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's a cult of personality because Chaz, what do you think of Pip's Lip?
Chaz: Um, I don't hate it. Uh, I, I can see the branding and I think the marketing possibilities are endless for sure.
But I am just still slightly confused on the actual product. Is it essentially the lipstick that makes your lips look more full, or is it like something that actually gets. Injected into your lip. Could you just clarify what the actual product function
Shubh: is like?
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: maybe Chaz should be a guest host.
Those are good questions.
Philippe: Well, I think, I think you can go full [00:21:00] lip. There's like four products. I think you could launch off the hop. You could launch a limp lip plumper. You know, Chaz, the, the girls have limp plumpers, right? Girls don't have limp plumper. The girls have lip plumpers. No one wants a limp.
Plumper. Hey, can you make my limp look more
Shubh: pronounced? Okay,
Philippe: continue. The girls, the girls have the lips, the plumper, right where it makes 'em all tingly.
Chaz: Do you guys remember the TikTok trend that got a lot of people into trouble?
Philippe: What was that?
Shubh: Uh, maybe we should skip this.
Chaz: I forget exactly what it was, but it had something to do with putting your lips into a bottle or something like that.
Oh, yeah. Making them look really inflated, but it ended up causing a lot of trouble. And now I'm kind of concerned about lawsuits with.
Shubh: I think you stay away from anything that's gonna like inject or plump.
Philippe: Plumping. The plumping, I think just makes it a little tingly. And then in response to the like, but anyway, so we got the [00:22:00] plumper, we have the gloss.
So the gloss is like a little bit Can get
Shubh: behind. Yeah.
Philippe: You know?
Shubh: Yeah. The gloss I'm in.
Philippe: And then, and then the last one is, is the balm, the lip balm, which is just like, you know, a coating, a nice little moisturizing coating.
Shubh: So balm and gloss. Is there a massive difference? I'm asking?
Philippe: Um, yeah, like Gloss. I don't think very many.
Um, Chaz, who uses Gloss right now, it's like only women really like, like very few men use Gloss.
Shubh: I think you're right.
Chaz: Yeah.
Philippe: And if men are using Gloss, they're using Women's Gloss.
Shubh: Okay.
Philippe: But there's an opportunity to get into this space where
Shubh: Gloss meant,
Philippe: so Glosser meant
Shubh: I would lead with the glossing,
Philippe: lead
Shubh: with the Gloss.
Forget the bomb. It's lips, your whole pitch. Earlier you started the pitch and you, I've been a little feedback 'cause the pitch is a little all over the place, but the pitch was, I don't have lips.
Philippe: Right?
Shubh: So this is lips products for people like me,
Philippe: right?
Shubh: So you need to turn the lights on a little, right?
Like on the lips. So [00:23:00] gloss. Yeah. You know, I think the gloss is where you start.
Philippe: I, uh, I think you're right. I also love that tagline. Turn the lips on. Turn the lights on your lips.
Shubh: Yeah, I think I love that too.
Philippe: Give 'em a bit of shine
Shubh: light up your lips. Is that taken already? It's like lights, but for lips.
That's
Philippe: actually good. Um,
Shubh: I gotta score this one.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: We came up with the scoring system last time.
Philippe: Yeah. She
Shubh: outta 75
Philippe: out of 75.
Shubh: Uh, it's tough. I mean. There's probably some criteria that I should probably apply. I think it's gonna be like a 38, like you're just over the line where I want you to continue, but I think you've got some work to do.
Cha seemed much more.
Philippe: Chaz, what do you think outta 75? How many.
Chaz: I would go slightly higher, but I do have my concerns too. So I don't know if I would go that much higher. I'd probably [00:24:00] give it like a 43 or a 42. Somewhere in
Philippe: that. Yeah. Yeah. Are, are your concerns, legal concerns? It sounds like you're really worried I'm gonna suit
Chaz: well, I, this might, this might be opening up a whole nother can of worms here, but, um.
I, I don't, I don't believe in a lot of conspiracy theories, but one conspiracy theory that I'm fully behind is that Chapstick is a massive scam. And so for that reason, I don't know if I could get into supporting other male lip products.
Shubh: What do you mean? Chapstick is a scam? But, but but do you think, do you think Glo so bomb is a spam, uh, scam, but you don't think gloss is a scam?
Right.
Chaz: Well, that's where I could definitely be persuaded. I haven't really done that much research on the gloss and the,
Shubh: that doesn't sound like you.
Philippe: Big lipstick. Big lipstick is coming after all of us.
Shubh: Yeah, but you got Littleness.
Chaz: But with the branding and everything, I'm, I'm on board. I do think [00:25:00] there's a lot of potential there, so,
Shubh: okay.
Philippe: You gotta
Chaz: capitalize working on this one.
Shubh: So I think pip plus something, I think both, it's fair to say Chaz, we're, we're like supportive of,
Philippe: okay.
Chaz: Yeah, totally. I'm
Shubh: not sure that the lips. The lip, the breath of lip product is where we would start.
Philippe: Okay, got it.
Shubh: Yeah, it's pretty good though.
Philippe: What about Pips Nips?
Shubh: No. Now we're
Chaz: to something.
Shubh: Can you, can you, can you, can you take that out?
Philippe: Just
Chaz: Yeah. I'll, I'll edit that.
Shubh: Yeah. Thanks buddy. What, uh. You got anything else you want to pitch
Philippe: me? No. No, that's it. Okay. My turn to introduce you.
Shubh: I don't
Philippe: think, shout boo. Ladies and gentlemen. Uh, introducing, uh, Mr. Neat with his idea, uh, uh, coming on the heels of
Shubh: Mr.
Neat.
Philippe: Mr. Neat.
Shubh: I, I went to four years of neat medical school. It's doctor neat. That doesn't make any sense. [00:26:00]
Philippe: Um, uh, coming off of. Last, last week you pitched Florence.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: So where, what is your pitch? Do, do you want me to
Shubh: remind you about Florence?
Philippe: No, that's okay. I'm sure there's plenty of content on floor.
I
Shubh: can do 20 more minutes on
Philippe: floor.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: So what do you got going on today?
Shubh: Now this is, uh, uh, particularly relevant to people who live in cold weather climates like we do. Mm-hmm. And it's an idea that I had many years ago. I took as far as, uh, doing some diagrams. Um, you're not in the camera anymore, don't you notice
Philippe: your chair?
Alright.
Shubh: See that? That's producing right there.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Um, I
Philippe: fucking chess,
Shubh: I. Sh Now he's Chaz again. Uh, when Phil, when Pip's unhappy, it's, it's Chaz. When he is, when he is vibing. It's Chaz.
Philippe: Yeah. Well, maybe if you give you a higher score than three, five.
Shubh: Think said, I think he said 43. Uh, okay. I like to use the old barbecue.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, but the weather can be [00:27:00] inclement here and, uh, as a result, I'll cook. I'll come back inside. You gotta wait for the barbecue to cool down.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: It's like an hour or two later, I've had a lovely meal and I'm just sitting in my nice warm house and then somebody says the barbecue cover
Philippe: is off.
Shubh: It's off.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So I gotta go back outside now Uhhuh and I gotta cover this barbecue.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And so one of two things happens. I go out in the cold and I'm miserable, or I don't do it. It snows, it rains, something else happens and my barbecue breaks down. 10 times faster than it should.
Philippe: Right. So, yeah.
Shubh: You ready?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: You ready?
Philippe: I'm ready.
Shubh: An automated retractable barbecue cover.
Philippe: Whoa.
Shubh: Right?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So you put it on
Philippe: uhhuh,
Shubh: it opens up, you get a little button to open it up. Now one of two things can happen.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, maybe the fancy version detects the heat of the barbecue and closes. Mm-hmm. Or I just have a little button. A little button inside the [00:28:00] house.
Philippe: Yeah. Like a remote control. Yeah.
Shubh: Boom roast. That's it.
Philippe: Boom. Roasted.
Shubh: Yeah. And do you know why this idea works?
Philippe: What,
Shubh: uh, I actually did a bunch of market research. There are way more barbecues than you think.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: there's a lot of them. Uh, literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands in this market alone.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: Um, most of them are uncovered and, uh, perhaps most importantly. The technology exists now. So have you seen, uh, you seen cars where they have retractable umbrellas now to protect them from hail? You seen this?
Philippe: I haven't seen this.
Shubh: Yeah. So they just like pop out and
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Yeah. Explode out over,
Philippe: so cool.
Shubh: Uh, so yeah, so, and a regular barbecue cover, like a regular, like just, I don't know what they're made out of. Yeah. I haven't done this much homework canvas.
Philippe: Okay, sure. Plastic. I don't have a barbecue, but yeah, sure. You
Shubh: don't have a barbecue. How do you live? Uh, the, and then you go and you put this, [00:29:00] you put this cover on those covers, those like cheap, like flimsy covers, like 90 to 130 bucks.
Yeah. So that's the pitch.
Philippe: It's just like a garage door. For, it's the garage door of barbecue covers
Shubh: the, I've never pitched it that way, but that's a great way to pitch it.
Philippe: And what, what does it fold into?
Shubh: So it's just like, imagine an accordion.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: It folds like an accordion. So like you've got a, a fulcrum around the sort of the, now the one thing I ran into and
Philippe: what's a fulcrum
Shubh: and what is physics and what's a lever.
Can you explain all the physics to me? So here's the primary problem I ran into when I was. Doing designs.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Um, so you want to be able to have this thing accordion back,
Philippe: right? Yeah.
Shubh: But if you have the pivot point of the accordion at the middle of the barbecue, it gets in your way.
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: But if you put it at the bottom, then the extension on either side, you've got like three extra feet on each side.
Oh, right. So then you're. You are now space constrained. So somebody I need, [00:30:00] well, I guess what I'm part of this pitch is I need, um, like some kind of mechanical engineer, some kind of designer right. Who can figure out that problem. So we don't compromise space. But I think this might be a real idea.
Philippe: Yeah.
I'm, I'm, I'm trying to figure that, because I think you are right. Like if you put it on the ground
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Then it has to, it has to be massive.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: If it's gonna accordion. Yeah. Uh, if it was to drop down from above.
Shubh: Yeah. Like
Philippe: a, that save time
Shubh: I think. Yeah. This is where I ran into, I went as far as meeting, this is like true, this is like 10 years ago.
I met as far as meeting with like a manufacturing company. And I was like, Hey, what would it take here? Yeah. And they were like, well, you gotta get a designer to design the parts up. And I was like, what?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: How, how, how do I do that? How much is that gonna cost? I guess it costs a bunch of money, but you could get it manufactured overseas.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: You could, uh, get it designed and then you're go to market. You, you, you have the internet [00:31:00] obviously, right? If you guys know about the internet. Um, but you, you just gotta get into a couple of the big box retailers, your Home Depots. Up here, your Canadian tires.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And then I think this thing like would
Philippe: takes off by
Shubh: himself.
So would you buy this as a gift, say for Father's Day?
Philippe: I think so. I feel like my dad is also like a big barbecue cover kind of guy. Yeah.
Shubh: Can you text him later and be like, Hey, do you ever like, ah, I have to go cover the barbecue.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And if he says yes,
Philippe: but I think it's even, it's even annoying. Even if it's nice out, right?
Like,
Shubh: yeah. Oh yeah. Here I'm in. I'm just chilling.
Philippe: I also think a, a secret. Um, go to market here is gonna be like just your door to door. Just go door to door and, and be like, Hey,
Shubh: just look in people's backyards to see if their barbecue cover's not on.
Philippe: Yeah. Oh, it's kinda like that joke. Is your refrigerator running?
You know, you could say, you know, is your barbecue covered? Is your barbecue covered?
Shubh: Yeah. I don't have a great name for this. Uh, this I could use some help with. Okay. 'cause I, I like, um, [00:32:00] uh, I
was
Philippe: gonna ask you about that.
Yeah.
Shubh: I thought about the, the, the recover queue. Like a recover, but it doesn't really work.
Recover the, the, the, that's all I had. Cha Chaz, uh, uh, you want to, you got any thoughts on this? How good this idea is?
Chaz: Yeah. I, I hate to, to agree with sho, but I do really like this idea. Um, I think, I think, I think it's also a good contrast to, um, to Pip's lips because. I can see the function and the product very clearly, but it's the branding that I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around.
Shubh: What if we put 'em? What if we put 'em together somehow? Pips poops, pits pips. Barbecue covers pips pits. Explain pits. Pits. '
Philippe: cause they call the pit the barbecue pit.
Shubh: Yeah. I that, I don't know, grill. Is there a word with grill? Like the, [00:33:00] the grill? The, the, the grill protect, uh, that sounds bad. Uh, the cover. Cover cover.
Mec be cover?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: The bebb cover. The bebb cover. Is that it? And the cover is with a q?
Philippe: What? What if it was it taking a little longer? Cover Me Barbecue.
Shubh: That sounds like we're selling barbecue insurance.
Philippe: No, it sounds like we're cover selling. It sounds like we're selling
Shubh: insurance for people who get injured by their barbecue.
Philippe: I feel like Cover Me Barbecue was an ad I saw on, on Nickelodeon when I was a kid. Guys know, I'm telling you. BB cover. BB cover. I like BB cover. I I do like
Chaz: BB cover.
Philippe: The BB cover. The BB cover, yeah.
Shubh: So Chaz is like, Chaz is Unironically saying this is a good idea?
Philippe: I mean, it is a good idea. I think you could sell it.
I,
Shubh: I How do we, how do, okay, so like I can start a software business.
Mm-hmm.
Shubh: I can start a consulting [00:34:00] business. I apparently can start a podcast. I have. I am not the guy who knows how to start a. Physical manufacturing,
Philippe: but it sounds like you've been way further than I've ever been on,
Shubh: on PIP slips. Yeah, but pip slips.
I know what I would do. I would just take an existing product and like just put a, put a logo on it.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So you can do that. I can't put BB cover. On like an umbrella.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Right. This is what I need help with guys. Who do we know? How does, how do we get through the network to find somebody who wants, you
Philippe: know?
But number one is a designer it sounds like. Right? Like you have someone who would manufacture. Yeah, but
Shubh: I need a little capital to get going. Right? Like,
Philippe: yeah.
Shubh: You know, the designer,
Philippe: I feel like someone listening might be able to sketch up a couple ideas on what it could look like.
Shubh: And what do you do? We need to cut 'em in.
Should we have some kind of like legal disclaimer like in advance if you
Philippe: steal our ideas?
Shubh: Yeah,
Philippe: if you steal our ideas, at least give us 10%.
Shubh: Yeah. This is a. [00:35:00] This, this legally
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Is qualifies as a patent registration. So now that I've said that it, it's legal.
Philippe: So say that. Yeah. Now they have to come in.
Shubh: Yeah. Chaz,
Philippe: uh, although you have, you definitely have no patent for this idea. You have like
Shubh: No, no, I just said I do, I just patent.
Philippe: I don't think, you don't have, you have like an idea of
Shubh: Pat patented.
Philippe: You have like an idea of what would be nice. It would be nice if you didn't have to leave the house.
Shubh: Pat patented.
Um, Chaz, you live. Uh, in a part of the world, Southern Ontario, very popular barbecue location. Mm-hmm. A lot of, a lot of people, two barbecues, they have a house barbecue, and then they go up to the lake where they have another barbecue.
Chaz: Whoa. Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think the, the distribution opportunity is?
Chaz: I've, I think there's a lot of potential here, for sure. Um, my third,
Shubh: what
Chaz: if you forget
Shubh: barbecue and you're halfway home from the lake and you can somehow do it through your phone.
Chaz: Yeah,
Shubh: that's good. [00:36:00]
Chaz: That would save a lot of people, a lot of energy and uh, and discomfort.
Philippe: And then yeah, if it's at the lake, you don't wanna barbecue like.
The wind, the rain. You gotta make sure it's covered when you leave. Right.
Shubh: You go to bb. Covered
Philippe: you. Yeah, you gotta cover me bbq.
Maybe if we sell it in Australia, that's what it'll be called. Because it sounds like they, they're saying it cover me bbq. What?
Shubh: I was just
Philippe: come home and barbecue. Then actually say, cover me, Bobby.
Shubh: The, I think, uh, I think so. What I'm hearing is this is a good idea.
Philippe: Let me give you, I think this is, I, I think it's a good idea. I you've admitted yourself that there's no design for this thing yet.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And that's gonna get in the way. But if someone designs this, can
Shubh: I just throw something out there?
I, for the last. 10 to 15 years of my career, I've been an [00:37:00] operator.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Someone else has an idea and I've figured it out.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: I don't think I wanna do that anymore. I think I just wanna have the ideas.
Philippe: Yeah. Have the ideas.
Shubh: Someone
Philippe: else come and do it.
Shubh: This is, I'll be honest, and I'm not disparaging founders, this feels easier.
You just have, and then you go find some guy who's like, yeah, I know how to do that.
Philippe: Yeah. All right. And this is your call to the world. It's like, this is how you wanna, you wanna come start a podcast?
Shubh: I, I'm looking for one to two co-founders mm-hmm. Of BB cover. I don't wanna operate. Yeah. I'm gonna, I'm gonna retain intellectual rights most of the money.
Uh, but think about the glory.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: You know, um, they could go on a Shark tank, dragons den. All kinds of cha And you just cha I was just laughing in the back. Yeah,
Chaz: I have an idea. Um,
Shubh: okay.
Chaz: What if to to, to kind of outsource some designs, what if we run the first your business on the line contest where people can [00:38:00] submit their designs, their drawings or whatever one and um, maybe we'll cut them in.
Maybe
Shubh: this is why podcasts have producers.
Philippe: Yeah, that would be awesome.
Shubh: We're gonna need an email address and a website of some kind.
Philippe: Yeah, and,
Shubh: and, or they could just DM us on social that don't exist yet. Yeah,
Philippe: I think that's a brilliant idea. So as much as you both shit on Pip's lips, I am going to give you,
Shubh: I don't love how that,
Philippe: right, right. Yes. On the theoretical concept. On
Shubh: the idea, the business idea.
Philippe: On the idea, yeah. None of my real lips. But I, I think this is a good idea and I think it's, it's a six 60 salsas outta 75, 60, 75, and it goes up to 70, salsas outta 75. If we have someone, uh, from our listeners who, who draft this
Shubh: jazz, what do you got for me outta 75?
Chaz: This [00:39:00] one's pretty good, chubby. Um, I'm, I'm gonna stay, I, I'm gonna give it a 59.
Shubh: 59 and a 60.
Chaz: There's still definitely, there's definitely work that needs to be done, but I think this is, this is a, dare I say it. Brilliant idea.
Philippe: Wow. Dare I say it? A brilliant idea.
Shubh: So when we put these ideas out in the world and then people do steal them.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Like, you know what's gonna happen six months from now, we'll be sitting around doing our podcast that's still generating zero revenue.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: The weekend before Father's Day, there'll be like big ad play from Home Depot, the first ever automated barbecue cover. And what will I do? Will I just be like,
Philippe: well you patented, you said, oh, I
Shubh: did say patent to get residuals.
Philippe: Yeah. Yeah. So it's gonna be great.
Shubh: Okay.
Philippe: Can I actually, it's so hard in this room, so I'm gonna take up my sweater, but I realize I'm wearing the most insane shirt.
Shubh: Yeah, I think you should just wait. We're
Philippe: done in [00:40:00] like five minutes that I want to show you this shirt that I'm wearing under here.
Shubh: Can we even show shirts?
On the show.
Philippe: This is, look at this.
Shubh: This is you.
Philippe: This is a photo of me.
Shubh: This is, you were wearing a picture of yourself.
Philippe: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. My, um, uh, this is, uh, Neil was printing some banners. Yeah. About three years ago.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And the tagline here is join the team.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And, uh, Vistaprint prompted whoever was ordering them to also buy a shirt.
Yeah. And he was like, yep, throw it in the cart. And so now I only wear this. Uh, and it is happened twice now, where the room is so hot that I have to take off my sweater and then reveal that I'm wearing a shirt with my face on it.
Shubh: Do you think Neo Financial's gonna sponsor this podcast?
Philippe: Well, I think
Shubh: yeah.
Yeah. Hey Jeff.
Philippe: Hey Jeff. You gotta sponsor now? Yeah, yeah. Join the team. Your logos all over the place.
Shubh: You, that guy is like a stand in for me.
Philippe: Yeah, that's right. It's
Shubh: like, it's
Philippe: like a
Shubh: future. You predicted the future.
Philippe: Yeah, [00:41:00] exactly.
Shubh: Phil. Uh, Philip, Philip only does stuff with Indian guys. Okay. So I'm psyched about bb, BB cover?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: No. What did I call it?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: BB cover.
Philippe: BB cover.
Chaz: BB
cover
Shubh: with a Q. Why does it sound, why does it sound worsening?
Philippe: Well, because you realize that Cover me barbecue is a much better name.
Shubh: But the barbecue, but we cover it. Barbecue, cover that. Barbecue,
Philippe: right?
Shubh: Cover that. If you did actually. Okay. If you did cover that, you could then, so, um, uh, you ever see people rushing outside in a hailstorm to like, uh, to take the cushions and stuff off their fancy outdoor furniture?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: You guys seen that before?
Philippe: I think that's an even better idea.
Shubh: Chaz, you would've seen that at Muskoka.
Philippe: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: Except their butlers would be running out to do.
Philippe: He said, he's like, yeah, that's right. Yeah. You've heard of mu, you usually can't afford to go SHAS in mu
Shubh: uh, so you could just make a whole [00:42:00] outdoor line
Philippe: mm-hmm.
Shubh: Of recover.
Philippe: Yeah. I think that's so brilliant. Honestly. Cover that, the patio cushion.
Shubh: Cover that couch.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Cover that chair. Cover that glass table.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Cover that. Swimming pool.
Philippe: Ooh.
Shubh: Cover that hot tub. Cover that bar, cover that barbecue. Cover
Philippe: that barbecue.
Chaz: Okay, so I, I, this is, I have another question now.
So are these, are these like custom made, custom fitted, or are these like, no, are we gonna mass produce these things?
Philippe: Well, so that sha that was actually my thought was like, I've been seeing these weather tech, you know, weather techs in the, uh, in the cars. Where those are custom made, they take like a laser imprint.
I think your margins on custom made might be way higher.
Shubh: I think that because of the mechanics involved for the barbecue, you can only offer three sizes. Small, actually, no. 'cause you want to peel to the demographic. Large, extra large. Double, extra large.
Philippe: Yeah. [00:43:00]
Shubh: It's like a Starbucks situation.
Philippe: Oh, I see.
Shubh: Okay.
For the, for the furniture, you know your high end market. Maybe then there's a bespoke angle, right?
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: Much like, um, uh, when, uh, when Sebastian was in pitching salsa score mm-hmm. He said, what if I just sell it? Very expensively to a small demographic.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: I think that's Cover that
Philippe: I got a, I got a thought, an iteration, but what if it's like a Roomba?
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: That you sort of tell it what you want covered. Outside. Yeah. And so it starts meaning, and you just send out the Roomba and it covers everything in plastic and single. Oh, it it every single use
Shubh: plastic. I hate everything about this, this iteration, this idea. Uh, no, it doesn't make any sense because what would you choose to cover first?
By the time it's done, this robot's wrapped one thing, everything else is destroyed.
Philippe: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, hey, we'll wait for the listeners to, to come up. You [00:44:00] have a few different ideas that you could pick up?
Shubh: No. The core of the idea. Automated remote, barbecue covering.
Philippe: Yeah. Boom. Boom.
Shubh: That's the pitch.
Philippe: I love it.
Shubh: Send us your money for. Ownership investment. Yeah. We have not thought this program through at all, but uh, Chaz says it's a good idea.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Chaz has literally only said to me twice that something is a good idea. One was this version of the podcast.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: What you don't know is I've pitched him 15 different versions of a podcast over the last seven years.
He's been like, ah,
Philippe: yeah,
Shubh: yeah. I don't know.
Philippe: Not that funny.
Shubh: Now he's on board with this barbecue
Philippe: cover. Yeah. I think if maybe we could put this out to, um. Audience if you, if you are able to come up with the concept.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Uh, Shaz will pitch this to his Muskoka friends.
Shubh: Yeah. Well, here's what, if they come up with a concept, we'll cut 'em in.
Philippe: We'll cut 'em in. Yeah. I think that's it. [00:45:00]
Shubh: Uh, and this is legal legally binding agreement. Just like the patent.
Philippe: Yep.
Shubh: It's law.
Philippe: It's law.
Shubh: It's legal.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Stamped, notarized. It's now notarized.
Philippe: Now notarized. Yeah.
Shubh: Alright. Okay, so I appreciate it guys. So 59 60, it means I think we have to move ahead with BB cover.
Philippe: BB cover. You outscored me.
Shubh: You outscored. Your idea was it wasn't. It wasn't. I mean, it wasn't incredible, I'll be honest. So like, yes, I outscored you. Yeah. I do wonder if your idea had been better, if my score would've been worse. Like, I do wonder if coming out of that idea, Chaz was like. This is so much better than the lips thing,
Philippe: right?
This is like a 59 because the Pips were just
Shubh: Yeah, but I genuinely heard excitement in Chaz's voice. Yeah, so, so I think
Philippe: maybe,
Shubh: oh yeah. Chaz,
Chaz: I, I, I think, I think there's a lot of pros and cons to both ideas. I'm not gonna [00:46:00] pick any favorites.
Shubh: You literally gave mine,
Chaz: we're going off the scaling system, then you scored mine
Shubh: 50%
Philippe: higher.
Shubh: You literally, you literally, you literally picked a favorite. Alright. Uh, anything else you wanna talk about? How's Tech Thursday going? You guys had a big, uh, a big event this past weekend. Yeah.
Philippe: Yes, we hosted, um, a
Shubh: hackathon. Okay. What was the intent of the hackathon?
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: I I was there, but for the, for the, for all those people who haven't already left the stream to go like.
Furiously scribble out their barbecue designs.
Philippe: Yeah. For those who aren't Leonardo da Vinci, thank you for sticking in with the podcast. Um, yeah, we had a, uh, solving the Canadian productivity Hackathon over the weekend
Shubh: and
Philippe: um, and it was great. We had, uh, did you
Shubh: solve it
Philippe: soft? Yeah. Wow. All done. Our, our
Shubh: legally binding
Philippe: our hours worked for GDP through the roof.
Uh, no, it was a lot of fun. We had a hundred people all together about like 40 in Winnipeg. [00:47:00] 60 here in Calgary.
Shubh: Yep.
Philippe: Um, and, uh, a bunch of really cool ideas came out of it and some incredible judges who came out, including you shove. So, thank you very
Shubh: much. I do, can I tell the background?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So I heard about this hackathon.
On social media.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Not even directly from you. And in the comments on your socials feeds, I was like, Hey man, love this idea.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: I wanna judge. And you responded with like, ha ha. And I was like, no, I really would like to judge. And then every time I saw you for the next several weeks,
Philippe: mm-hmm.
Shubh: Um,
Philippe: you asked me to judge.
Shubh: Well, I, I mean, I think
Philippe: well ask is actually a light way to frame it. You begged me to
Shubh: judge. I, I would say I demanded to judge. I said many things like. This whole event would be a sham. Yeah. If I'm not asked to judge.
Philippe: It was like when, uh, Steve Jobs, uh, handcuffed himself in like the Apple office
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And was like, I'm not gonna leave until you gimme a job.[00:48:00]
Shubh: Oh. I don't know that story.
Philippe: Oh, you don't know that story? Yeah.
Shubh: Yeah, yeah.
Philippe: It's a brilliant story. Yeah. So he, he did that.
Shubh: That's essentially, I paid that story for next time.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: Uh, I was trying to assumptive close judging. And then you were, you were playing at Coy 'cause I think you wanted some technology people to actually judge.
'cause it was a hackathon. And then, um, I was coming down anyway to hang out, but I get a text in the afternoon that's like, Hey, uh, what are you doing? I'm like, uh, well, I'm just gonna head over in a bit. And you're like, yeah, I really need you to judge.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So I didn't even know.
Philippe: How did that feel? Did you feel good?
Did you feel vindicated?
Shubh: I, I mean, I think I knew. Listen, I just knew it was gonna happen the whole time. Right? Yes. It would've been nice or kind for you to. You know, any one of the 40 times I asked to be like, Hey, Chubb, yes. Mm-hmm. Please come, judge, we would love to have you. That would've been nice. It would've felt good.
Did it make it feel less good that, uh, I got the text on the day of? No. Yeah, it still felt great. You know, uh, I won. [00:49:00] At the end of the day, I got to judge. I got to actually legitimately see some pretty cool pitches, especially in this space of eight hours, and I couldn't believe how many people were at that event.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: it was a very hot room though, which
Philippe: exclusively house events and very hot. This,
Shubh: this is the pip, uh, tech Thursday mo only hot rooms.
Philippe: The hotter, the better.
Shubh: Only hot rooms. That's a pitch.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: it's a hotel where all the rooms are very warm. Why would you go to Asana? I can't pitch this. I gotta save this for next time.
Philippe: So gross,
Shubh: only hot rooms. Okay. Uh, Chaz, once again, thanks for coming on board. Philip Pip.
Philippe: Yep.
Shubh: Mr. Sir. Hogwarts,
Philippe: Mr. Lips himself.
Shubh: Mr. Lips is not bad. Sounds creepy lips, actually. Lips is pretty good. Uh, I want to thank you for, uh, joining us again.
Philippe: Thanks for having me. And if I, could I play you out?
You [00:50:00] have to see what I really wanna hear you do it again.
Shubh: I, I'm trying to remember, we, we have original theme music on this podcast. We haven't even talked about this. So the music that you hear playing in the pod and playing out the pod, you're probably like, what is this?
Philippe: It's nice. It's lovely.
Shubh: 15 years ago, I wanna say Hockey Night in Canada, they lost the rights to Hockey Night Canada and they basically lost the song.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: So then they were like, we need a new Hockey Night in Canada Song. And they solicited the entire country. You could, you could submit a song. So my friend Gregory and I, we made up no way Canada theme and the abridged version.
Philippe: Is what's playing.
Shubh: Yeah. And it is, is the, now we finally, after 15 years of it on the shelf, we found, I did ask his permission.
And uh, and that's what's playing us in and out. Damn. And so that music goes like, uh, uh, oh Lord. Uh.[00:51:00]
And then the outro right now is like,
Philippe: it's so good.
Shubh: Yeah. And we'll see you next time.
Philippe: It'll see you next time.
Shubh: Thanks everybody.
Philippe: Damn.